Surprise Surprise! it's a NEL! (Non-Elimination Leg)

Can TARA/AXN organizer think of a different way to start the season... NEL again... they really are predictable, I won't be surprised if we will have consecutive NEL's again!....

LOL, in their defense, season 3 started with an EL but yeah, now 3 out of 4 seasons started with NEL

I guess it's nice to save the last teams during the first leg. I could just imagine the time and investment on making it to TARA to only just run 1 leg. That would be infuriating

The_Siege wrote:

I guess it's nice to save the last teams during the first leg. I could just imagine the time and investment on making it to TARA to only just run 1 leg. That would be infuriating

plus this is supposed to make an interesting leg 2, i hope the Indonesian gurls Yani & nadine step up to the challenge

I just wished that the penalty was a speedbump and not just a 30 min. penalty...

i was sad watching Indonesian teams' performance... but i hope they can shake the leaderboard for the 2nd episode!!!!!

RaG@zZo wrote:

I just wished that the penalty was a speedbump and not just a 30 min. penalty...

well, TARA tends to mix everything up. I won't be surprised to see a speedbump in the future, or a YIELD and a U-TURN in one season, hehe

sympathy for any team whos eliminated in leg1 coz...not really enjoy in TARA4...

episod 2 ok to eliminate

I think a NEL on the 1st leg is okay. Let's give the racers a chance to "enjoy" the race first before they get eliminated. hehe.

An EL on the 2nd leg would be expected.

I think a NEL on the 1st leg is okay. Let's give the racers a chance to "enjoy" the race first before they get eliminated. hehe.

An EL on the 2nd leg would be expected.

RaG@zZo wrote:

Can TARA/AXN organizer think of a different way to start the season... NEL again... they really are predictable, I won't be surprised if we will have consecutive NEL's again!....

Well, there are only 2 options: EL or NEL. That's a 50-50 chance. Depends on which side of the coin you are, but predicting what will be this first leg's ending will not take a genius to deduce . Season 3 was an elimination leg. So, what made you say that for season 4 having a NEL for 1st leg, they have become really predictable?

What if they have no elimination or non-elimination on the first leg?

Meaning, they will have a super long leg (just like in a previous season....what was it called? TBC?), that the teams thought they already reached the pit stop after doing all the mandatory tasks - detour, roadblock - only to be informed on the mat that they have to still continue with the race.

That way, the 1st episode will be like a 2-part special....

The suspense will be so high....

And all the racers will be tested based on their endurance and skill, and the truly weak ones will then get eliminated on the "technically" 1st leg but will be known on the 2nd episode.



That way, the 1st leg becomes unpredictable!

Mai-Siomai wrote:

RaG@zZo wrote:

Can TARA/AXN organizer think of a different way to start the season... NEL again... they really are predictable, I won't be surprised if we will have consecutive NEL's again!....

Well, there are only 2 options: EL or NEL. That's a 50-50 chance. Depends on which side of the coin you are, but predicting what will be this first leg's ending will not take a genius to deduce . Season 3 was an elimination leg. So, what made you say that for season 4 having a NEL for 1st leg, they have become really predictable?

I beg to disagree, the chance is not 50-50 since there are 13 legs and 4 NELS, so, the probability of a NEL in the first leg (assuming NEL can occur in any leg of the race with the same probability) is 4/13

Mai-Siomai wrote:

What if they have no elimination or non-elimination on the first leg?

Meaning, they will have a super long leg (just like in a previous season....what was it called? TBC?), that the teams thought they already reached the pit stop after doing all the mandatory tasks - detour, roadblock - only to be informed on the mat that they have to still continue with the race.

That way, the 1st episode will be like a 2-part special....

The suspense will be so high....

And all the racers will be tested based on their endurance and skill, and the truly weak ones will then get eliminated on the "technically" 1st leg but will be known on the 2nd episode.



That way, the 1st leg becomes unpredictable!

hahaha, I always hate TBC So, I prefer a NEL, than a TBC

so there is also a chance to see back to back NEL's this season where the same team will be saved twice!

RaG@zZo wrote:

so there is also a chance to see back to back NEL's this season where the same team will be saved twice!

Well, if there was a proper equalizer, a back to back NEL might not be that "bad". TAR 11 had a back to back NEL and it was still fun to watch

Z-1988 wrote:

Mai-Siomai wrote:

RaG@zZo wrote:

Can TARA/AXN organizer think of a different way to start the season... NEL again... they really are predictable, I won't be surprised if we will have consecutive NEL's again!....

Well, there are only 2 options: EL or NEL. That's a 50-50 chance. Depends on which side of the coin you are, but predicting what will be this first leg's ending will not take a genius to deduce . Season 3 was an elimination leg. So, what made you say that for season 4 having a NEL for 1st leg, they have become really predictable?

I beg to disagree, the chance is not 50-50 since there are 13 legs and 4 NELS, so, the probability of a NEL in the first leg (assuming NEL can occur in any leg of the race with the same probability) is 4/13

Z, I was just referring to the 1st leg. There are only 2 ways to end it.....have an elimination or a non-elimination. Making it a 50-50 chance. And in this case, they chose the non-elimination option. I guess that was Ragazzo's sentiment...having a NEL for the 1st leg.

Of course, if you are talking about the whole season, then you are right....the NEL would have a 4/13 chance of happening.

Z-1988 wrote:

Mai-Siomai wrote:

What if they have no elimination or non-elimination on the first leg?

Meaning, they will have a super long leg (just like in a previous season....what was it called? TBC?), that the teams thought they already reached the pit stop after doing all the mandatory tasks - detour, roadblock - only to be informed on the mat that they have to still continue with the race.

That way, the 1st episode will be like a 2-part special....

The suspense will be so high....

And all the racers will be tested based on their endurance and skill, and the truly weak ones will then get eliminated on the "technically" 1st leg but will be known on the 2nd episode.



That way, the 1st leg becomes unpredictable!

hahaha, I always hate TBC So, I prefer a NEL, than a TBC

I like watching a TBC.....but I pity the racers....they must be very very tired after the leg.

Mai-Siomai wrote:

Z-1988 wrote:

Mai-Siomai wrote:

RaG@zZo wrote:

Can TARA/AXN organizer think of a different way to start the season... NEL again... they really are predictable, I won't be surprised if we will have consecutive NEL's again!....

Well, there are only 2 options: EL or NEL. That's a 50-50 chance. Depends on which side of the coin you are, but predicting what will be this first leg's ending will not take a genius to deduce . Season 3 was an elimination leg. So, what made you say that for season 4 having a NEL for 1st leg, they have become really predictable?

I beg to disagree, the chance is not 50-50 since there are 13 legs and 4 NELS, so, the probability of a NEL in the first leg (assuming NEL can occur in any leg of the race with the same probability) is 4/13

Z, I was just referring to the 1st leg. There are only 2 ways to end it.....have an elimination or a non-elimination. Making it a 50-50 chance. And in this case, they chose the non-elimination option. I guess that was Ragazzo's sentiment...having a NEL for the 1st leg.

Of course, if you are talking about the whole season, then you are right....the NEL would have a 4/13 chance of happening.

I don't think it can be looked "separately" from the whole season, since what happen in leg 1 (NEL or not) would definitely affect the whole season

Anyway, now that we have 3 out of 4 seasons with NEL in the first leg, then we might conclude that the chance of a NEL in leg 1 is bigger than 4/13, because now the probability of a NEL in each leg seems to differ in each leg.

Mai-Siomai wrote:

Z-1988 wrote:

Mai-Siomai wrote:

What if they have no elimination or non-elimination on the first leg?

Meaning, they will have a super long leg (just like in a previous season....what was it called? TBC?), that the teams thought they already reached the pit stop after doing all the mandatory tasks - detour, roadblock - only to be informed on the mat that they have to still continue with the race.

That way, the 1st episode will be like a 2-part special....

The suspense will be so high....

And all the racers will be tested based on their endurance and skill, and the truly weak ones will then get eliminated on the "technically" 1st leg but will be known on the 2nd episode.



That way, the 1st leg becomes unpredictable!

hahaha, I always hate TBC So, I prefer a NEL, than a TBC

I like watching a TBC.....but I pity the racers....they must be very very tired after the leg.

if there was an equalizer, it might not be that much of a problem. Like in TAR season 10, they had to go from Finland to Ukraine. There was an equalizer. In season 14, there was also an hour of operation equalizer, rite? (neutralizing the lead Cara & Jaime had)

Z-1988 wrote:

Mai-Siomai wrote:

Z-1988 wrote:

Mai-Siomai wrote:

RaG@zZo wrote:

Can TARA/AXN organizer think of a different way to start the season... NEL again... they really are predictable, I won't be surprised if we will have consecutive NEL's again!....

Well, there are only 2 options: EL or NEL. That's a 50-50 chance. Depends on which side of the coin you are, but predicting what will be this first leg's ending will not take a genius to deduce . Season 3 was an elimination leg. So, what made you say that for season 4 having a NEL for 1st leg, they have become really predictable?

I beg to disagree, the chance is not 50-50 since there are 13 legs and 4 NELS, so, the probability of a NEL in the first leg (assuming NEL can occur in any leg of the race with the same probability) is 4/13

Z, I was just referring to the 1st leg. There are only 2 ways to end it.....have an elimination or a non-elimination. Making it a 50-50 chance. And in this case, they chose the non-elimination option. I guess that was Ragazzo's sentiment...having a NEL for the 1st leg.

Of course, if you are talking about the whole season, then you are right....the NEL would have a 4/13 chance of happening.

I don't think it can be looked "separately" from the whole season, since what happen in leg 1 (NEL or not) would definitely affect the whole season

Anyway, now that we have 3 out of 4 seasons with NEL in the first leg, then we might conclude that the chance of a NEL in leg 1 is bigger than 4/13, because now the probability of a NEL in each leg seems to differ in each leg.

Okay. If you want to look at it that way, fine with me.

All I'm saying is that the 1st leg will have just two options for an ending: elimination or non-elimination.


Cheers!

Mai-Siomai wrote:

Z-1988 wrote:

Mai-Siomai wrote:

Z-1988 wrote:

Mai-Siomai wrote:

RaG@zZo wrote:

Can TARA/AXN organizer think of a different way to start the season... NEL again... they really are predictable, I won't be surprised if we will have consecutive NEL's again!....

Well, there are only 2 options: EL or NEL. That's a 50-50 chance. Depends on which side of the coin you are, but predicting what will be this first leg's ending will not take a genius to deduce . Season 3 was an elimination leg. So, what made you say that for season 4 having a NEL for 1st leg, they have become really predictable?

I beg to disagree, the chance is not 50-50 since there are 13 legs and 4 NELS, so, the probability of a NEL in the first leg (assuming NEL can occur in any leg of the race with the same probability) is 4/13

Z, I was just referring to the 1st leg. There are only 2 ways to end it.....have an elimination or a non-elimination. Making it a 50-50 chance. And in this case, they chose the non-elimination option. I guess that was Ragazzo's sentiment...having a NEL for the 1st leg.

Of course, if you are talking about the whole season, then you are right....the NEL would have a 4/13 chance of happening.

I don't think it can be looked "separately" from the whole season, since what happen in leg 1 (NEL or not) would definitely affect the whole season

Anyway, now that we have 3 out of 4 seasons with NEL in the first leg, then we might conclude that the chance of a NEL in leg 1 is bigger than 4/13, because now the probability of a NEL in each leg seems to differ in each leg.

Okay. If you want to look at it that way, fine with me.

All I'm saying is that the 1st leg will have just two options for an ending: elimination or non-elimination.


Cheers!

yes, but it doesn't mean the probability for each scenario is the same, hehehe...

Z-1988 wrote:

LOL, in their defense, season 3 started with an EL but yeah, now 3 out of 4 seasons started with NEL

really? i totally forgot about it. who was eliminated first in season 3? was it the team from hongkong? can't remember their names, was their a monica?

dexter02 wrote:

Z-1988 wrote:

LOL, in their defense, season 3 started with an EL but yeah, now 3 out of 4 seasons started with NEL

really? i totally forgot about it. who was eliminated first in season 3? was it the team from hongkong? can't remember their names, was their a monica?

No, it was the Indian team. I think it was Neena and Amit. (and Paula was the greeter at that time, )

Z-1988 wrote:

dexter02 wrote:

Z-1988 wrote:

LOL, in their defense, season 3 started with an EL but yeah, now 3 out of 4 seasons started with NEL

really? i totally forgot about it. who was eliminated first in season 3? was it the team from hongkong? can't remember their names, was their a monica?

No, it was the Indian team. I think it was Neena and Amit. (and Paula was the greeter at that time, )

i can't even remember who Neena and Amit are. hehe. it seems like ages ago. but i do remember Paula being on the pit stop as a greeter.